Minutes of November 2011 Meeting
Board of Aldermen


Meeting of the Board of Aldermen of the City of Clarkson Valley at City Hall (Fru-Con Center), November 1, 2011.

The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. A roll call was taken with the following results:




Mayor Scott Douglass 



Ward 1

  Alderperson Susan Shea

Alderperson Jim Meyer

Ward 1


Alderperson Honora Schiller

Ward 2

Alderperson Wendell Sittser Ward 2     

Alderperson Scott Schultz

Ward 3

Ward 3 Alderperson Lin Midyett

Also in Attendance:

City Attorney: Patrick Butler
City Clerk: Michele McMahon 

Alderperson Schultz made a motion to accept the Minutes.  Alderperson Meyer seconded the motion.  A voice vote was taken to accept the Minutes with an affirmative result and the motion was declared passed.  


There were no remarks, petitions or complaints.   


St. Louis County Police Report:  Officer Thom Taylor of the St. Louis County Police handed out the October Police Report.   

Mayor’s Report 

Court Report:  The total amount collected for traffic fines and court costs for the month of October 2011 was $9,153.06.   

Mobile Ticket Printer:  Mayor Douglass explained to the Board that maintenance problems continue with the mobile ticket printer when moving it from vehicle to vehicle with the officers' change of shifts.  Per the e-mail sent last week, I would suggest we purchase a new printer for $767.10 and would like to have your approval to purchase a new printer along with a three-year service agreement.  Everyone agreed to the request.   

Kehrs Mill Road Maintenance:  Mayor Douglass met with personnel from St. Louis County Highway Department to review the rights-of-way of the homes backing up to Kehrs Mill Road off Jennycliffe.  The rights-of-way appear to be larger than we originally thought.  He concluded by saying we would look further into the matter.   

Solid Waste Management:  Mayor Douglass stated the Waste Management ordinance is on tonight's agenda and hopefully it will pass.   

Kehrs Mill Road Runoff Remedy:  Mayor Douglass informed those present that St. Louis County Highway Department accepted a bid from a new contractor to fix the water runoff problem on Kehrs Mill Road.   

Point-of-Sale "A" City - "B" Pool City:  Mayor Douglass stated the sub-committees for the "A" Cities and "B" Cities have been meeting and both sides are understandably frustrated.  The formula is so complicated it appears no one can explain it.  The pool ("B") Cities are hanging in there and we do not know where it will end.   

Alderpersons' Reports 

Forest Hills Club Estates - Annual Subdivision Meeting:  Alderperson Schultz stated his subdivision would be holding its annual subdivision meeting November 9th.   

Drug Take Back:  Alderperson Meyer thanked St. Louis County Police for their participation in the take back held last month.  There were 1,246 lbs. of prescription drugs taken from the Rockwood School District at this latest event. 

Deer Bow Hunting Season - Numbers:  Alderperson Schiller asked the number harvested so far for the 2011-2012 season to which the number is one dozen, eleven of which were does and one being a buck.   

City Attorney's Report 

There was no report.



A motion was made by Alderperson Meyer to discuss and pass Bill No. 0428.  Alderperson Schultz seconded the motion.  Mayor Scott Douglass read Bill No. 0428 for the first time.  There were no questions or comments.  Mayor Douglass read Bill No. 0428 the second time.  A roll call vote was taken, with the following results.  Ayes: Meyer, Schiller, Schultz and Sittser.  There were no Nays.  Whereby, Mayor Douglass declared Bill No. 0428 as having passed and is now considered Ordinance No. 11-09.   


Language in Building Code Regarding Retaining Walls and Carbon Monoxide Inspections:  Alderperson Schultz made a motion to discuss and pass Bill No. 0429, seconded by Alderperson Meyer.  Mayor Douglass explained that when homes were built in Clarkson Valley and the code stipulated garage doors could not face the street, retaining walls were installed at the sides and rear of a lot of our homes in order to hold the earth back to locate side and rear-facing garages.  These early retaining walls were made of railroad ties and in most cases, the walls were part of the initial construction of the house with no thought given to separate permits.  The walls were considered part of the new construction permit.  As these walls are deteriorating and they are being replaced with block systems, the City now has to deal with these previously un-permitted walls.  He concluded by saying that what we've been following and what the code states are two different things and we are here tonight to change the language regarding replacement of these existing retaining walls.  The City Attorney found issue with the language, however and the Bill's passage and discussion will be delayed until next month.  The second item within the Bill No. 0429 deals with the International Residential Code mandating inspections of carbon monoxide alarms when conducting a final inspection for any building permit, be it to the interior or exterior of the premises.  When asked of the City Attorney if there would be issues by not passing the Bill, he said there would not. 

Solar Energy Systems:  After some initial discussion, Alderperson Sittser asked to table Bill No. 0430 until the Board has a better understanding of what other cities do regarding these solar energy systems.  Alderperson Schiller made a motion the Board put a moratorium on granting any building permits until next month.  Alderperson Schultz seconded the motion.   

Mr. Jim Babb was given permission to enter into this discussion.  He stated he is an electrical engineer and has submitted an application for the solar panels to be installed on his roof in the Kehrs Mill Estates Subdivision.  He shared with the Board that he had solar energy panels installed at his lake house and concluded by saying he hopes to be treated fairly when reviewing his proposal.  Mayor Douglass stated the Building Commissioner has no legislation to approve or disapprove the application.  There were several other questions (number of panels, where on the house would they be located; front or back, what exactly is the solar renewable energy credit) asked of Mr. Babb but the timeframe in which Mr. Babb would like to have these panels installed was responded to as "before snow gets on the roof". 

A voice vote was taken with a unanimous affirmative result and the motion for Resolution 11-01 was declared passed. 

Chickens:  Mayor Douglass asked if the Alderpersons were ready to vote to allow, prohibit or limit the ability to raise chickens to lots with a certain number of acreage within the City.  A motion was made to discuss chickens, but Alderperson Schultz stated his thoughts that two acres is questionable.  After further discussion, it was decided to let the motion die for lack of a second and that the subdivisions could handle the issue with their indentures. 

Audit:  Alderperson Meyer had several questions relating to the audit regarding the number of homes being charged for trash pickup, which Mayor Douglass stated he is negotiating a reduction and should have that accomplished by next month's audit.  The second regarded the payment to have the lawn of a vacant property maintained, to which the city clerk responded the previous amount of $450 was paid and this new amount has been invoiced.  A motion was then made by Alderperson Meyer to approve for payment invoices in the amount of $59,920.94, seconded by Alderperson Schultz.  A voice vote was taken with a unanimous affirmative result and the motion was declared passed.  

Alderperson Meyer made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Alderperson Schultz.  A voice vote was taken with a unanimous affirmative result and the motion was declared passed.  The Meeting of the Board of Aldermen adjourned at 8:30 p.m.   


Scott Douglass, Mayor


ATTEST:  Michele McMahon, City Clerk


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