City of Clarkson Valley

Minutes of November 2003 Meeting
Board of Aldermen


Meeting of the Board of Aldermen of the City of Clarkson Valley at City Hall (Fru-Con Center), November 4, 2003.

The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. A roll call was taken with the following results:
  Mayor Scott Douglass
Alderperson Susan Shea Ward 1 Alderperson Jim Sharp
Chairperson Honora Schiller Ward 2
Alderperson Wendell Sittser Ward 2
Alderperson Melinda Twichell Ward 3 Alderperson Mary Ann Gatto

Also in Attendance:

City Attorney: Patrick Butler
City Clerk: Michele McMahon 

Alderperson Twichell made a motion to accept the Minutes, seconded by Alderperson Sittser. A voice vote was taken with a unanimous affirmative result and the motion was declared passed. 


Mrs. Kathy Bradford, a resident of Dunhill Farm, introduced herself and spoke regarding the ongoing problem of students parking in the cul-de-sac and along the street she resides.  She mentioned the limited parking spaces Marquette High School has to offer to its student population.  She also stated that the problem is not limited to the students themselves parking on the street.  There is an equally difficult problem of parents dropping their students off in the cul-de-sac and allowing their children to trespass on her and her neighbors property in order for these parents to avoid the traffic problems associated with the school's start-up and dismissal times.  She further explained that the city and police departments have been working two years on this issue and so far the remedy has been temporary "No Parking" signs.  She also mentioned that whenever the school has been called, they have been helpful.  She concluded, however, that these solutions are ineffective.   

Another resident/Trustee of Dunhill Farm, Kathy Carey, spoke saying that most of the residents living on the street she resides, do not suffer from the parking problems to the same degree as Mrs. Bradford.  They instead, have a safety issue due to speeding. 

Suggestions were heard regarding the text statement of the proposed signage. 

Mr. Mike Berger, also a Trustee of Dunhill Farm, stated that he has no problem with offending the high school students.  He concluded by saying the residents of his subdivision are already inconvenienced by the high school and that he does not want to be further inconvenienced by signage that would not allow visitors or work crewmembers to park in front of his home.

Chairperson Schiller stated that this matter would be further discussed as a later Agenda item. 

A resident of Kehrs Mill Estates, Mr. Jim Meyer, asked the Members of the Board if Clarkson Valley participated in the organized deer hunt, sponsored under provisions granted by the Missouri Department of Conservation?  Alderperson Shea responded that we could not take part in that because the ordinances of the city do not allow the discharging of a firearm or the launching of arrows.  Mr. Meyer concluded by stating his opinion that it is inhumane to allow the deer herds to grow so large. 

Mr. Fred Twichell, a Trustee of Forest Hills Club Estates, spoke about 23 Forest Club Drive, which is owned by Mr. and Mrs. Jeff Roggensack.  Mrs. Roggensack and the architect for the project, Mr. Victor Vouga, were present.  Mr. Twichell stated that he had no problem with the type of fireplace being installed, but rather the appearance of the chimney being constructed in that it is not a unit of full masonry.  Chairperson Schiller explained that the Roggensack's went before the Board of Adjustment with several requests, one of which was to allow a wood-burning fireplace to be of non-masonry material.  The Roggensack's were denied a variance.  They are now building a non-woodburning gas fireplace.  She further explained that our ordinance is confusing and that is the reason we are in the process of changing that portion of the code.  The City Attorney, Patrick Butler, described that two interpretations of the code were possible, but the city historically has dealt with it as meaning woodburning only.  He related that permits have been granted for other non-woodburning gas fireplaces within the limits of Clarkson Valley.


Ballwin Police Report:

Captain Saulters handed out the police report for October 2003.  She reported that Marquette High School's Student Resource Officer (SRO) is trying to instill in all students that they lock their cars and lockers and maintain constant vigil on their purses and backpacks.  The statistics on this month's report show all thirteen reports stem from the two schools.  Seven of which are larceny charges at the high school. 

Alderperson Shea asked Captain Saulters about an accident on Clarkson Road involving one of the buses.  Captain Saulters said the accident was in the City of Chesterfield's jurisdiction but the Ballwin Police were asked to assist.  She reported there were no fatalities. 

Mayor's Report:

Chairperson Schiller reported on the following: 

Court Report:  The total amount collected for traffic fines and court costs for the month of October 2003 was $12,483.50. 

Sound Walls:  She reported that the meeting with those residents of Clarkson Valley and Ballwin affected by the sound wall took place on Monday, October 20, 2003.  Eleven of the thirteen households in Clarkson Valley were represented and two of the six Ballwin households were represented.  One resident, Mrs. Nancy Thomas, Greenbank Drive, does not want the sound wall.  Another affected resident, Mrs. Mary Ward, also of Greenbank Drive, would prefer to have a berm on her property as opposed to a sound wall.  After the meeting, the three attending Alderpersons requested that all the Alderpersons walk Clarkson Road with Karen Yeoman, the Area Engineer with MoDOT.  The meeting date was set, however it was rained out.  She concluded by saying she is attempting to reschedule within the next week or two. 

Forest Hills Country Club Representatives Meet with MoDOT:  Chairperson Schiller mentioned a copy of an e-mail received by Mayor Douglass on October 20, written October 17, and related that representatives of Forest Hills Country Club met with Karen Yeoman, Area Engineer, MoDOT to discuss signage being possibly located closer to Clarkson Road.  This would ensure visitors' awareness of both Forest Hills Club Estates and Forest Hills Country Club.  The letter concludes that the representatives of the subdivision and club will draft their proposal (to include pictures) and Ms. Yeoman will bring this to the attention of MoDOT's Traffic Division. 

Kehrs Mill Road - Driveway to Marquette High School:  She reported that next month we would be discussing the proposal for an entrance to the high school from Kehrs Mill Road as an Agenda item.   

Requests for a Person to Serve on the Architectural Review Committee:  Chairperson Schiller mentioned that the City is still in need of an additional Member to serve on the Architectural Review Board.  Please call Mayor Douglass with your suggestions or recommendations.   

Revisiting Fee Schedule Ordinance:  She reminded those present of last month's meeting where two residents were unhappy with the fees being charged for building permits and said the Mayor is in the process of reviewing the procedure. 

Bad Dogs:  Chairperson Schiller reported that she received a complaint call about owners of dogs that do not clean up their dog's droppings while taking them for walks.  Upon review of the code, she found there is an ordinance that prohibits allowing defecation on public or private property.  She suggested that the next Newsletter contain an item indicating that this is a prohibited act.  On the same note, she also received a complaint this month about barking dogs.  She found there is an ordinance that prohibits barking dogs to cause annoyance to others.  Captain Saulters added that if the dog is a habitual nuisance, the neighbors should call the police.  If upon investigation the officer hears the dog barking, he can issue a summons to the owner of the dog.  If the officer does not hear the dog, the complainant can file a report and request that the police issue a summons.

Alderpersons' Reports:

West St. Louis County Deer Task Force:  Alderperson Shea reported that she would be attending the next meeting of the West St. Louis County Deer Task Force.  In preparation for this meeting, she explained that she called the municipalities that were represented in this group, requesting a copy of their ordinance relating to hunting, and the firing or discharging of firearms and arrows.   

Ballwin Police Respond to Disabled Vehicle:  Alderperson Twichell asked to publicly thank the police for assisting her when her vehicle became inoperable on Clarkson Road.  They were able to move it quickly to the side of the road and she was very appreciative.


Dunhill Farms' Request for Signage:  Chairperson Schiller mentioned the four options that were named in the initial letter to Clarkson Valley requesting signage in the Dunhill Subdivision.  It was pointed out that signage should not single-out a certain group - in this case, students.  Also, all agreed that the signs should not carry specific times because there are sporting events that would be the exception.  Also, limiting the time would not prohibit parents dropping off the students.  Various wording was mentioned, such as Authorized Parking Only; No Trespassing (in the front of the subdivision); No Parking (in the dead end and cul-de-sac); No Unauthorized Stopping or Parking; and Two Hour Parking Limit.  After further discussion, it was agreed there should be three signs (one at the front end of the subdivision, one toward the Sterling Pointe Drive cul-de-sac, and one toward the dead end of Kehrsgrove Drive), affixed to an existing light standard post and existing signs, which would read: Parking For Dunhill Residents and Guests Only.  City Attorney, Patrick Butler said he was going to run this past the City Prosecutor, Dick Fox, to make sure he would be comfortable prosecuting this.  Chairperson Schiller concluded the discussion by saying that the council would vote on the proposed sign ordinance at the December meeting and requested that Dunhill Trustees submit this to their residents at the Dunhill Farms Homeowner's Meeting that will be held in a few days.  The Members of the Board thanked the Dunhill Trustees and residents for attending this meeting.   


Fireplaces, Flues and Chimneys:  Chairperson Schiller said she had an opportunity to speak with Alderperson Twichell and they felt this discussion would be better held between Council Members and the Architectural Review Committee when it is fully consummated.  She suggested that the Board Members hold a working meeting with the Architectural Review Committee to draft the language for this proposed ordinance.   

A motion was made by Alderperson Twichell to introduce and pass Bill No. 0267.  Alderperson Sittser seconded the motion.  Chairperson Schiller read Bill No. 0267 for the first time.  Alderperson Shea caught a mistake in the typing of this ordinance, which indicated St. Louis (city) as opposed to St. Louis County.  Chairperson Schiller read Bill No. 0267 for the second time with the correction included.  A roll call vote was taken, with the following results.  Ayes:  Schiller, Shea, Sittser and Twichell.  Whereupon Chairperson Schiller declared Bill No. 0267 as having passed and is now Ordinance 03-13. 

A motion was made by Alderperson Twichell to introduce and pass Bill No. 0268.  Alderperson Shea seconded the motion.  Chairperson Schiller read Bill No. 0268 for the first time.  There was no discussion.  Chairperson Schiller read Bill No. 0268 for the second time.  A roll call vote was taken, with the following results.  Ayes:  Schiller, Shea, Sittser and Twichell.  Whereupon Chairperson Schiller declared Bill No. 0268 as having passed and is now Ordinance 03-14. 

Reappoint Member to Tower Commission:  Chairperson Schiller noted that there would be a proposal coming to the city soon from someone proposing a cellular tower.  She asked the Board to consider reappointing Artie Ahrens to serve another two-year term on this Commission.  Alderperson Shea made a motion, seconded by Alderperson Sittser, to appoint Artie Ahrens.  A voice vote was taken with a unanimous affirmative result and the motion was declared passed. 

Appoint New Member to Tower Commission:  Alderperson Shea made a motion, seconded by Alderperson Sittser, to appoint Darryl Brody to serve on the Tower Commission for a two-year term.  A voice vote was taken with a unanimous affirmative result and the motion was declared passed.

Audit: Alderperson Twichell made a motion, seconded by Alderperson Shea to have invoices in the amount of $78,826.44 approved for payment.  A voice vote was taken with a unanimous affirmative result and the motion was declared passed.

Alderperson Twichell made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Alderperson Shea.  A voice vote was taken with a unanimous affirmative result and the motion was declared passed.  The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m.

Honora Schiller
President, Board of Aldermen

ATTEST: Michele McMahon, City Clerk

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